Comments on: CakePHP and Symfony http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/ Another Blog clogging up the already crowded internet Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:06:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Rajesh Yadav http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Rajesh Yadav Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:06:54 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-267 A drawback which I have seen in symfony till now is that, when you try to alter a table by adding new columns in your schema.yml, It flushes the data from the table and gives you an altered table with no data. This is really bad, if you don’t know this behavior and move ahead altering the table. Though Symfony provider propel-dump-data to handle alter tables, but it is still quite buggy and slow for big databases. A drawback which I have seen in symfony till now is that, when you try to alter a table by adding new columns in your schema.yml, It flushes the data from the table and gives you an altered table with no data. This is really bad, if you don’t know this behavior and move ahead altering the table. Though Symfony provider propel-dump-data to handle alter tables, but it is still quite buggy and slow for big databases.

]]> By: lordraven http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-246 lordraven Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:19:49 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-246 Symfony it`s great but if you starting with frameworks you should start with CakePHP is much easer to learn than symfony. Symfony it`s great but if you starting with frameworks you should start with CakePHP is much easer to learn than symfony.

]]> By: Rafeeq http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-238 Rafeeq Mon, 08 Mar 2010 09:24:44 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-238 I have been working in symfony for the last 2 years(version 1.1).I think total structure of symfony is somewhat heavy,more configurable than others.So probably people choose symfony for big projects.but symfony made drastic changes for new versions.New versions are coming for very short periods!.So we cannot upgrade easily to new versions.symfony 1.0 and 1.4 are 2 different product rather than a version.That much changes.Now they will plan to release symfony 2.0! yet another cakePHP :) I have been working in symfony for the last 2 years(version 1.1).I think total structure of symfony is somewhat heavy,more configurable than others.So probably people choose symfony for big projects.but symfony made drastic changes for new versions.New versions are coming for very short periods!.So we cannot upgrade easily to new versions.symfony 1.0 and 1.4 are 2 different product rather than a version.That much changes.Now they will plan to release symfony 2.0! yet another cakePHP :)

]]> By: James http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-237 James Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:46:45 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-237 @jfk: i have to agree on that, it's like they are developing the framework in their own microcosmos sometimes, when you're working on some other stuff not always related to symfony or php and you come back to the website 6 months later, it's nearly like they changed everything, i have plenty of apps stuck on sf 1.0 and i don't think i'll try to update them to 1.3 @jfk: i have to agree on that, it’s like they are developing the framework in their own microcosmos sometimes, when you’re working on some other stuff not always related to symfony or php and you come back to the website 6 months later, it’s nearly like they changed everything, i have plenty of apps stuck on sf 1.0 and i don’t think i’ll try to update them to 1.3

]]> By: Vasilij http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Vasilij Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:17:49 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-157 Very nice post :) I can say that i am on cake almost 2 years , and i do not think that Symfony is so greate , after few hours on Symfony two bugs were found by me . Moreover first i found out Cake only later Symfony :) i am from Eurpoe so Ismael i do not think that EU is mostly prefer symfony :) YAML is very nice for optimisation your requests to DB , but i think that using YAML structure to define smth in framework core is just waste of your time . Very nice post :) I can say that i am on cake almost 2 years , and i do not think that Symfony is so greate , after few hours on Symfony two bugs were found by me . Moreover first i found out Cake only later Symfony :) i am from Eurpoe so Ismael i do not think that EU is mostly prefer symfony :) YAML is very nice for optimisation your requests to DB , but i think that using YAML structure to define smth in framework core is just waste of your time .

]]> By: jfk http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-146 jfk Wed, 27 May 2009 07:53:07 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-146 Hello, I found your comparison intelligent and usefull. I have been using symfony since 1.0, and I am starting to use cake. My opinion is that symfony has more features. The model generation is great, just needs a correct schema and here you go. But, the reason I now learn cake is because, and I think this is worth mentioning, Symfony changes too much. I mean, have a look at Symfony 2.0 ... it nearly has nothing to do with S. 1.2 If I am to maintain a website, and my framework makes 180 degrees turns each 6 month, it is not for me I think. This is the major problem with Symfony. Call me paranoid but I would say they do this intentionnally in order to make more trainings (= more income for sensio) Hello,
I found your comparison intelligent and usefull. I have been using symfony since 1.0, and I am starting to use cake.

My opinion is that symfony has more features. The model generation is great, just needs a correct schema and here you go.

But, the reason I now learn cake is because, and I think this is worth mentioning, Symfony changes too much.
I mean, have a look at Symfony 2.0 … it nearly has nothing to do with S. 1.2
If I am to maintain a website, and my framework makes 180 degrees turns each 6 month, it is not for me I think. This is the major problem with Symfony.
Call me paranoid but I would say they do this intentionnally in order to make more trainings (= more income for sensio)

]]> By: stephen http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-142 stephen Thu, 21 May 2009 13:05:24 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-142 Nate, thank you for that information. As mentioned above, I should have clarified that this is based wholly on my experience and not a scientific study whatsoever. I am going to check those out. Nate, thank you for that information. As mentioned above, I should have clarified that this is based wholly on my experience and not a scientific study whatsoever.

I am going to check those out.

]]> By: Nate Abele http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Nate Abele Mon, 18 May 2009 20:25:08 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-141 CakePHP is bigger and more popular than Symfony in pretty much every measurable respect. See here: http://www.google.com/trends?q=CakePHP%2C+Symfony&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 and here: http://technorati.com/search/CakePHP?compare=Symfony For most of the lives of the two frameworks, CakePHP's community has been more than double the size of Symfony's, with Symfony just now catching up. CakePHP is bigger and more popular than Symfony in pretty much every measurable respect. See here:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=CakePHP%2C+Symfony&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

and here:

http://technorati.com/search/CakePHP?compare=Symfony

For most of the lives of the two frameworks, CakePHP’s community has been more than double the size of Symfony’s, with Symfony just now catching up.

]]> By: stephen http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-123 stephen Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:56:38 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-123 Google may give some info on it. I may have used the wrong words in writing this. Don't get me wrong, I love CakePHP, and love reading all the blogs about CakePHP. In my experience I have seen more corporate projects leaning towards Symfony than they do towards CakePHP. I guess I should have clarified that a bit more. Google may give some info on it. I may have used the wrong words in writing this. Don’t get me wrong, I love CakePHP, and love reading all the blogs about CakePHP. In my experience I have seen more corporate projects leaning towards Symfony than they do towards CakePHP.

I guess I should have clarified that a bit more.

]]> By: dr. Hannibal Lecter http://www.hirdweb.com/2009/03/02/cakephp-and-symfony/comment-page-1/#comment-122 dr. Hannibal Lecter Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:39:51 +0000 http://www.hirdweb.com/?p=158#comment-122 "Not quite as widespread as Symfony" According to Google, that's not quite true.. Where did that info come from? “Not quite as widespread as Symfony”

According to Google, that’s not quite true.. Where did that info come from?

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